Just a quick FYI

I haven't posted once in Ming's most recent thread. They are all imposters.

http://www.worldofming.com/?p=516

Some Thoughts on Niar.

Niar stopped by the comments section a few posts back. It sounded like him, so I don't think it was an imposter. In any case, he made a good point.

You know, I was reading some of the EU forums earlier and Niar gets it far worse than me. His armory page speaks for itself, and the people at WCM love his movies. Yet, people still flame him for being "bad."

Ming's review of Niar's last movie contained this quote:

""Now when you actually watch the video, what do you see? A rogue in nearly full T3 taking out people in blues/greens in BGs, and a lot of those clips were 1v1. Gee, what exactly do you expect? Is your BG pool really that weak, that you can’t even find anyone with decent gear?"

When you compare that quote to Ming's sparkling review of Neilyo's movie, the hypocrisy is just ABSOLUTELY STAGGERING. On one hand they critique Niar's opponents, but on the other hand say that you shouldn't be critiquing Neilyo's opponents because it was an "entertainment" movie. Good dear lord. Such blatant hypocrisy. But, this is not a post meant to primarily slam Ming, but instead it is to support Niar.

Alot of people accuse Niar of being arrogant and of thinking he is the best rogue. I don't read the EU forums often so maybe there is something to it (I don't know), but a lot of people accuse me of the same thing... which, of course, I know is absolute BS. My guess is that Niar gets caught in the same exact trap I do. In an effort to defend his work and refute people who says he sucks, other people dishonestly look at what he is saying and accuse him of being arrogant.

Critic: You suck
Niar: No, I don't. Look at this and this.
2nd Critic: OMG, you think you are the best. You aren't the best!

I get that crap all the time. I bet Niar does too. It is very frustrating. All I can say is, take comfort in knowing that many of your most vocal critics are total hypocrites, Niar. And, for what it's worth I think you are a good rogue.

Enough is Enough

Okay, I'm calling my own cease fire against Ming. I'm seeing things headed to a very ugly place there. It looks to me like there truly are people quitting Ming's website because of what is going on there.

My presence draws and incites the type of crowd that truly enjoys being disruptive and abusive, and Ming's mature readers and worthwhile readers will leave his blog because of these types of people. I mean, Ming's following there has always been on the immature side, but man... I just set these people off. They can't beat me intellectually, so they have to start acting like chimps and fling shit around everywhere.

Or maybe... they really are Scientologists...

WHAT'S YOUR CRIME, OOZO?
/flings shit across the room

Nope, they are chimps.

Anyway, as much as I dislike Ming I am not so mean-spirited where I would wish his business venture to fail. I just can't help but think that if the people who are going to back him were to see his blog replies that they would pull support. I mean, I would.

Please don't call me out on your blog again, Ming. I mean if you post crap up there that is false about me I will come and defend myself. But I hope to God you can see by now that my presence is not healthy for your blog. I am giving honest-to-God good advice here. Try to salvage your mature and worthwhile readers. Drama shitstorms draw in exactly the crowd you do not want to have to cater to. And for God's sake, do something about letting a person secure his identity on your blog.

Response to Ming's Libelous Post

Of course, if your name is Oozo, who doesn’t seem to understand 1900 this late in the season is not what it used to be, who loves to gank mediocre rank players missing key cooldowns in BGs, who is afraid of real competition in arena and only plays PUG BGs, who plays on a PVE server, rogues are fine! - Ming

1 "1900 this late in the season is not what it used to be"

First of all, most of the footage for Oozo Lives was taken from well over a month ago. One of the warlocks I killed easily in that movie currently has a 2300+ 2v2 rating. Most of the opponents in Neilyo's movie are 1600ish rating and lower. 1600 this late in the season is not what it used to be, I hear.

2 "mediocre rank players missing key cooldowns in BGs"

And that is worse than ganking less than mediocre players missing key cooldowns in World PvP? Ming, World PvP is far weaker than BG PvP. It's not even a contest. There is no argument to be had. But, hell... don't take my word for it.

idk why people cry about bg scenes, a bg scene as long as your not being helped is more credible than a world pvp scene in chain/1vN killing because most of the opponets are more aware & alert about your prescence, and more willing to fight.

In world pvp a lot of the people dont even demount before they die or they are noobs going to 5/10 mans or autorunning while minimized / doing something else. - Neilyo

What can I say? I agree with you on this one 100%, Neilyo. I mean it's almost like you are talking about that 6.5K HP warlock you killed that didn't even dismount until he was almost dead, am I right?

3 "who plays on a PVE server"

I levelled Chromed 0-60 on Scilla, a PvP server. I later moved Chromed to Medivh to consolidate all my toons on one server. I had to transfer them to a PvE server because you can't transfer toons from PvE to PvP. I did this transfer after cross-server BGs came out. Also, I had many more toons on Medivh so it was much less expensive to move everyone there, anyway.

Cross-server BGs totally ruined any and all PvP community that Scilla had. World PvP became non-existant. Everyone was doing PvP in the BGs. Scilla, a PVP server, was for all intents and purposes just like a PvE server when it came down to PvPing.

But, none of that really matters much. I'm not sure if Ming is purposefully being retarded here or not, but cross-server BGs include both PvE and PvP servers. The majority of people I fight come from Arthas and Mannoroth. Look them up.

Isn't this "comes from a PvE server" just a hollow and childish insult anymore? I mean World PvP is the weakest variety of PvP you can get. Neilyo has got my back on this one and after watching his last movie, it's obvious he knows this from experience. Furthermore, the people you encounter in the BGs and the Arenas are a mixture of PvE and PvP Players.

Grow up, Ming.

4 "rogues are fine!"

Here is the libel. I'm going to quote myself from all the way back when I first introduced my last movie as Oozo on WCM and emphasis the key statements. This was posted way before any of the flames I have gotten recently. This has been my position throughout all of this time. You can see that many people have been flaming me based upon outright lies and distortions. Read, actually READ what I say here.

http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=40544

As far as content, I've always *tried* to find the hardest competition available to me. If I see a former R14 or some guy running around in gladiators I'm going to stalk them and try to single them out. This can be a very frustrating process. Sometimes I never get them alone. Sometimes I do but one or the other of us gets zerged during the fight. Sometimes I do and the GD battleground shuts down during our fight.

Nonetheless, I was able to isolate several R14s and gladiator-geared people for this movie. Now, these are not the best of the best. The best arena-geared people I fought in this movie came from around the 1800-2100 arena rating range with 100-200 points of resilience.

So, (in theory) they aren't the best... but they aren't complete slouches either.

It's not from a lack of wanting or trying that I don't have people with higher arena ratings in this movie. In fact, I actually isolated the team leader of what was at the time the #1 5v5 team in my battlegroup for a 1v1 while in WSG. That "fight" didn't make it into this movie, but it will make it into my next movie.

In any case, I didn't really have many problems competing with people in the 1800-2100 range of gear, in general. Sure, I lost some fights... but I won most of them.

I'm not saying their isn't a problem with rogues 1v1 in the high resilience game. I think there is. But, it doesn't seem to show up until the 200-300 range perhaps.

As far as rogues sucking in 5v5. Well, rogues have *always* kind of sucked in group v. group battles when compared to what other classes can do in those situations.

If you are curious about the guy I was referring to up there. The team leader of the #1 5v5 team in my battlegroup... He ran away from me. I had him isolated for a pure 1v1 and the best PvPer in my battlegroup (according to arena ratings) ran away from me to get help from his teammates. If you watch the intro of Oozo Lives (I know, I know.. the pain, the horror, it hurts! Please, stop the pain!) he is the guy running away on the horse. He's not going to be in my next movie, however. Because there is not going to be a next Oozo movie. At least not in this game...

Why do people think I point to Ming's PTR movie as the best "educational" TBC movie released yet? Do you think I would do that if I didn't agree with it's major premise?

Let me quote myself again:

I'm not saying their isn't a problem with rogues 1v1 in the high resilience game. I think there is.

I THINK THERE IS. I THINK THERE IS. I THINK THERE IS. I THINK THERE IS.

Can I be any clearer than this people? Seriously, can I? If you think I've been running around everywhere saying "rogues are fine" you are either dishonest, or you have fallen for the lies and distortions that dishonest people have been spreading about me. You have been duped. You have been lied to.

I know I'm abrasive and sometimes I snap at people unfairly. And if that is the case with you, then I truly do apologize. But look at what I have to put up with? I have people flat out lying about me. Defaming me. Distorting everything I say at nearly ever turn. Yesterday, someone pretending to me posted on Ming's blog under my name. Then, not much later Pyrrho takes this fake quote which is NOT from me and puts it up on his blog to ridicule me. Look at my blog entry below for info on that.

And now, I'm curious. How many other places have I had someone impersonating me, assuming my name, and saying things that I've never said? Yes, I get cranky and yes, I start assuming the worst in people. Wouldn't you, if you had people pulling this shit on you?

"As far as rogues sucking in 5v5. Well, rogues have *always* kind of sucked in group v. group battles when compared to what other classes can do in those situations."

What I am saying here is that rogues DO have a problem in 5v5. But, that it is a deep-rooted problem that has existed for a long time and is most likely very difficult to fix.

Ming what you posted is libel. It is a lie of omission. It is defamation of character. Are you familiar with these terms?

I would like you to correct your blog entry to say that I think rogues are fine in the BGs and the non-high resilience game, but are not fine in the high resilience game and I would like you to issue a formal apology to me.

I'm not threatening a lawsuit here. I am not a litigious person. You might want to be careful what you say about others though, because you just might run afoul of someone who is.

I am asking this out of common courtesy for you to set the record straight. If you don't change it and apologize, that says all there needs to be said about your character.

Unbelievable

Look at the bullshit I have to put up with.

http://worldofsev.blogspot.com/2007/06/oozo-feels-shunned.html

Pyrrho has quoted an imposter of me from Ming's blog. That is NOT me. It is an imposter. How many would like to take a bet that the imposter is Pyrrho or one of his friends?

Let's see, making up an imposter to make a fake quote and then posting it on your blog as an avenue to ridicule me?

These are the people I'm fighting.

BTW, I fully expect that Pyrrho will eventually end up having to delete that crap to save face. But, hey guess what? I've already screenshotted it.

Oozo Retires

They have hated me from the beginning. They hated me when I was killing Rank 13s and Rank14s with my Helm of Fire and auction house greens and blues. They hated me when I was killing Teir2 to Teir3 people with my PvP blues. And they hate me now for killing gladiator equipped opponents while not having any gladiator gear.

They hate me because they see me as a threat. The natural implication is that if I can kill these people, then they should be able to kill even better people without a problem. And, they hate that implication. Especially now, considering the problems the rogue has at the top teir.

But, why do they hate? I mean, I'm on the record repeatedly as stating that there are currently two different PvP games in progress. The high resilience/high rated arena game and the low resilience game. All my last movie showed was that rogue was fine in the BGs and 1v1s against people with mid-resilience or lower. I said this upfront when I released the movie. I said that my movie has zero reflection on the top level game. But STILL they came after me. They have to defame me, no matter what. You just can't have a scrub running around beating people in gladiator's gear. It's not right!

So, the 1900+ rating people who Ming was looking to recruit to his team all of the sudden turned into mediocre players... scrubs. I was ridiculed by multiple people for only being able to kill 1900-2100 opponents by "elite" rogues posting on alts. Why do you think they almost all post on alts BTW? Is it possibly an attempt to hide their scores in case things go sour?

The funny thing is this. Aside from Ming's PTR movie, Oozo Lives has the highest quality opponents by arena rating than any other rogue movie put out on the rogue forums. How f'n sad is that? All of those high rated rogues out there, who outgear me, who are better than me and not a single one of them has released a movie that has better opponents than I had in my crappy movie.... yet.

And, then Neilyo's movie comes (again apology to Neilyo) with opponents who are severely lacking except for one lone orc shaman. And it is proclaimed the "best TBC" movie by some of the very same people who flamed my 1900-2100 opponents.

The hypocrisy is just too much for me. Ming once flamed TBC movie makers for killing nothing but 6K HP Mages. Well, Ming... before you praised Neilyo's work did you take a look at the HP most of the mages in Neilyo's movie had? Yah, right around 6K HP.

I just can't stand the rogue community anymore. Sure, there are still some cool people left, but I get the feeling they are in the vast minority and the forum has been overrun by mouthbreathers who ridicule other rogues based on their armory page (except when it is one of their brethren, of course -- then armory results can be conveniently ignored).

To the rogue community, in general: You make me sick. You are not worth my time.

Oozo resigns, but will awaken someday in a different game and NOT as a stealth class which has a tendecy to draw far too many of the wrong type. It pains me to say it, but Mute... was right.

Bizzaro World

And so it continues on the rogue forums. It's seems that people who care about arena ratings (when ridiculing other rogues on the forum) all of the sudden don't care about arena ratings anymore (when watching a rogue with a high arena rating).

Neilyo having a 2309 (peak? I don't know, I didn't look into it) 2v2 rating is enough to justify him being a good rogue.... and beyond that, well, it doesn't matter.

He's got over 2300+ arena points! He's already proven himself! He doesn't need to put high rated people in his movie! His movie was good before he even made it, damn it! How do I know that? Because he has a 2300+ rating, idiot!

You know, maybe I stepped on a lot of toes here. Perhaps a lot of high rated rogues were planning on terrorizing the farmers on their server to make a movie out of it or something?

This quote was the best:

How can you criticize his opponents when you don't even have an arena team.

Uh, dude... the movie only had one 2v2 clip in it, the rest of it was world pvp and 1v1s? Anyway, here is how I read that quote:

"HOW CAN YOU CRITICIZE 1v1 and WORLD PVP WHEN YOU DONT EVEN HAVE AN ARENA TEAM?????????? DUHHHHHHHHHRRRRR."

People just don't seem to get it.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109901382&sid=1&pageNo=1

I'm not saying my movie is better than Neilyo's. It was more entertaining, obviously, than mine. That is fine.

The problem is that there is a group of hypocritical elitists who slammed my movie by insulting the opponents I had in it.

"1900-2100 rated players are scrubs"
"ur opponents all sucked"

etc. etc.... and then to see THESE SAME VERY PEOPLE call Neilyo's movie "the best TBC" movie when he is a 2300+ rating rogue killing people he SEVERELY OUTGEARS and out matches is a bit too much hypocrisy for me to handle.

Fact: There are only two people in Neilyo's movie with a rating higher than 1700. The best player has a rating of just over 2K.

Why are MY opponents held to a higher standard than the opponents of a 2300+ rated rogue? THAT IS THE QUESTION AND THE ISSUE AT HAND. It's a simple question that the hypocrites don't want to answer.

"All you do is spam hemorrhage and eviscerate" - total bullshit, I use all my abilities appropriately. My openers are textbook.

Here is an opener I used in my last movie that I never see anyone do:

Premed>CS>Shiv>5ptEA>Gouge>...

All I do is hemo and eviscerate, my ass. I guess the problem is that these so-called elites can't even understand what I'm doing when they watch my movies. I took way too much for granted by not including my combat box in my last movie. I thought people would understand what they were seeing. But, a lot of rogues simply can't tell what is going on by watching a movie. They miss details, and get things wrong constantly. Different openers and different strategies for different classes.

But, all they can see is hemo and eviscerate? They suck. Not me.

The State of The Union

Hellbent, my guild, is a relatively small group of friends, some of whom have known each other for over 10 years of gaming in the MMORPG community. Our history goes all the way back to Meridian59, however most ties were established in the golden age of original EQ.

We have played and tested many many games including the aforementioned EQ and M59. We have played or tested EQ2, AC, AC2, Planetside, DAoC, Horizons, AO, LoTRO, CoH, and WoW, among others. We spent a considerable amount of time playing on the Test Server as a guild (under a different name) for DAoC.

Our home for the past two to three years has been WoW.

We generally split our time between PvE and PvP. We've never been much for grinding. Unfortunately, the WoW PVE endgame for us has turned into exactly that. A grindfest. Grinding for materials, grinding for faction, grinding heroics for gear with a horrible risk vs reward balance. The saving grace for us has always been PvP.

Unfortunately, Blizzard has chosen a path for PvP that some of us find distasteful. They are pushing to turn WoW PvP into a professional e-sport and are completely abandoning the roleplaying-based PvP that the game was sold on. In short, there is no WAR in World of WARcraft. The only thing of importance now are arena matches, which is nothing but dueling in a confined and controlled enviroment for e-peen gratification.

We want PvP with a purpose. We want our wins and losses to have an impact on the gameworld around us. We want PvP in a world enviroment, not in some small arena.

Thus, we are in transition. We are stuck with a game that we are becoming increasingly disatisfied with, but possible salvation (Warhammer or AoC) lies a long ways off in the horizon.

We will be seeking to get into either beta, to see if they deliver what WoW has abandoned.

Warhammer Online
Age of Conan


-- Oozo/Chromed

Introduction

I've been playing MMORPGs for a little over 10 years now. From Templar in M59, Raggok in EQ, Reave in DAoC, The Debater in CoH, to my current day role as Oozo and Chromed in WoW.

Some people have surmised that I named myself after a russian alcoholic beverage. That is not the case. What I like to tell people is that I named myself after my RL girlfriend, Oozo. But, people generally don't buy that. Truth is that I stole this name from an EQ friend who had an ogre warrior named Oozo Slobberfist.



Now, before you go and call me a name-thief, let me tell you; he had it coming to him. My friends stole most of my old EQ names in DAoC and WoW and it was time for some payback. Little did I know that it would be by this name (not even my own) that I would end up being best known as.

Oh irony, how dost thou stabbeth thee...


The purpose of this blog will be for me to have a place to offer my musings on PvP, give background for movies I make, and talk about whatever MMORPGs I happen to be playing or looking forward to.